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desrose.livejournal.comI hope nobody minds me posting this... I really don't know if this community allows fanfic so mods feel free to delete...
I just thought I'd do a quick drive by fic drop off. My first fic in Young Wizards fandom:
http://desrose.livejournal.com/54098.html
It's Carl/Tom so if that's not to one's fancy I suggest not reading it.
Dai!
I just thought I'd do a quick drive by fic drop off. My first fic in Young Wizards fandom:
http://desrose.livejournal.com/54098.html
It's Carl/Tom so if that's not to one's fancy I suggest not reading it.
Dai!
readingredhead.livejournal.comI've known for a while that I'm largely the kind of reader (and student of literature) that I am because of writers like Diane Duane who showed me how magical plain old words can be. But explaining this to other people has always been a bit difficult...especially when those "other people" are the kinds of people who work in university English departments and Take Literature Seriously. I've always been frustrated by these people, for a number of reasons, but I am a grad student in English lit and I should be able to give them an argument on "their" terms about why books like So You Want to Be a Wizard are not just awesome, but integral to literature as a whole.
So, with a lot of this in mind, I ended up writing something like an informal analytical essay (but also like a celebration) about the power of words in So You Want to Be a Wizard, which you can find on my blog if you're interested. I've been piecing this together in my spare time for a while now, and I'd love to hear any thoughts that you might have on it.
So, with a lot of this in mind, I ended up writing something like an informal analytical essay (but also like a celebration) about the power of words in So You Want to Be a Wizard, which you can find on my blog if you're interested. I've been piecing this together in my spare time for a while now, and I'd love to hear any thoughts that you might have on it.
Binding Oath --help?
Aug. 11th, 2011 07:23 amdesrose.livejournal.comBinding Oath, the
One of the most powerful strictures in the Speech, the Binding Oath is the basis for almost all promissory statements and wizardly vows; even the Wizard's Oath is derived from it. It is phrased in the Enactive recension of the Speech, and the Binding Oath has so much power inherent in it that any being which swears it -- even the Lone Power itself -- is required to abide by the Oath's terms on pain of the withdrawal of all energy which has been invested in the being by the One.
The Oath begins, "I swear by the One to perform what I promise, fully and without any reservation, nor with any mechanism or execution founded in the intention to deceive; to fully inform the wizards to whom I swear this oath of all manner and matter of things pertaining to their querying and desire; to carry out this information at a speed and in a way best suited to these wizards' desires and the achievement of their ends; and at the end of said achievement, to depart without doing any harm to them or any thing or person affiliated to them in whatever degree, and when the conditions of this swearing are discharged and acknowledged to have been discharged, to go peaceably again into my own place. And all this, by the Power of that One in Which all oaths and all intentions rest, inviting It on my abbroachment of this Oath to withdraw the gifts It allows me to enjoy, I swear -- " There are several more optional phrases setting out any additional conditions and requirements, the fulfillment of which will signal the oath's completion and the release of the being doing the swearing.
A wizard will only be able to use the Binding Oath once in a lifetime. In WH, Nita judges that the right moment has come, and forces Esemeli to take the Binding Oath...with mixed results that serve only to emphasize how dangerous the Lone One is to deal with even when the wizard thinks he or she holds all the cards. Additionally, the Oath is as binding on the administering wizard as it is on the being who takes it. So powerful a stricture routinely demands a high price; the power of the binding (determined by the power of the being which is bound) implies a directly proportional payment in energy by the wizard. Such payments can take years to clear. (WH)
(See also: Adjurations, formal.)
Category: Theory of wizardry
That's what the WikiErranty has to say about it. But are you as confused as I am? I'm trying to change the Oath Nita says in the beginning of my story into a version of the Binding Oath. But am I correct in dong so? Diane Duane mentions using it in "Wizard's Holiday." But I don't remember it. I'd like to not have to reread it if at all possible...
So a little help?
PS. Is it possible to go through the Oath one sentence at a time? I don't understand all of it.
Double PS. If this isn't allowed, Mods feel free to delete.
One of the most powerful strictures in the Speech, the Binding Oath is the basis for almost all promissory statements and wizardly vows; even the Wizard's Oath is derived from it. It is phrased in the Enactive recension of the Speech, and the Binding Oath has so much power inherent in it that any being which swears it -- even the Lone Power itself -- is required to abide by the Oath's terms on pain of the withdrawal of all energy which has been invested in the being by the One.
The Oath begins, "I swear by the One to perform what I promise, fully and without any reservation, nor with any mechanism or execution founded in the intention to deceive; to fully inform the wizards to whom I swear this oath of all manner and matter of things pertaining to their querying and desire; to carry out this information at a speed and in a way best suited to these wizards' desires and the achievement of their ends; and at the end of said achievement, to depart without doing any harm to them or any thing or person affiliated to them in whatever degree, and when the conditions of this swearing are discharged and acknowledged to have been discharged, to go peaceably again into my own place. And all this, by the Power of that One in Which all oaths and all intentions rest, inviting It on my abbroachment of this Oath to withdraw the gifts It allows me to enjoy, I swear -- " There are several more optional phrases setting out any additional conditions and requirements, the fulfillment of which will signal the oath's completion and the release of the being doing the swearing.
A wizard will only be able to use the Binding Oath once in a lifetime. In WH, Nita judges that the right moment has come, and forces Esemeli to take the Binding Oath...with mixed results that serve only to emphasize how dangerous the Lone One is to deal with even when the wizard thinks he or she holds all the cards. Additionally, the Oath is as binding on the administering wizard as it is on the being who takes it. So powerful a stricture routinely demands a high price; the power of the binding (determined by the power of the being which is bound) implies a directly proportional payment in energy by the wizard. Such payments can take years to clear. (WH)
(See also: Adjurations, formal.)
Category: Theory of wizardry
That's what the WikiErranty has to say about it. But are you as confused as I am? I'm trying to change the Oath Nita says in the beginning of my story into a version of the Binding Oath. But am I correct in dong so? Diane Duane mentions using it in "Wizard's Holiday." But I don't remember it. I'd like to not have to reread it if at all possible...
So a little help?
PS. Is it possible to go through the Oath one sentence at a time? I don't understand all of it.
Double PS. If this isn't allowed, Mods feel free to delete.
Three pictures
Jul. 5th, 2011 09:28 pmshadowsinfire.livejournal.comThree pictures under the cut inspired by Wizards at War and A Wizard of Mars. Enjoy...
( Look! Arts! )
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Jun. 2nd, 2011 07:43 amlabellementeuse.livejournal.comHeads up: DD has commented in the most recent entry with a June 2000 date for SYWTBAW. HM OPINIONS.
The Rewrites!
May. 31st, 2011 11:26 pmlabellementeuse.livejournal.comDD posted about the New Millenium Editions that she's self-pubbing as ebooks. Go and read the post, but the bullet points are:
So?! What do we think? Shall we have a bitter old fan bitchfest?
- DD gets a lot of feedback from readers, which is reflected in sales, that the early four books are confusing, alienating, boring, or weird in their technology. "Readers" here means new readers, young readers, readers in the actual target market who are sort of essential.
- She wants to fix those pesky timeline issues.
- She wants to fix what she describes as "quality of writing issues", clunky bits, etc .
- If she does it herself and releases them now, she'll have solid new versions to give to the publishers if they ever do a reprint (possibly when #10 happens).
So?! What do we think? Shall we have a bitter old fan bitchfest?
I really hope no one minds...
May. 13th, 2011 07:57 amdesrose.livejournal.comModerators, please feel free to delete this but...
Does anyone know where I can find a hardback copy of Deep Wizardry? (Not library-bound but hardback... hardback has a jacket, library-bound is just a book in hard form)
I swear I've looked all over the place! I've tried Barnes and Noble, Amazon, and Rare Books!
It's the only one missing in my collection. If you have any suggestions I'd greatly appreciate it.
Oh, and it has to be under $40. I'm afraid I'm on a limited budget as most out-of-schoolers tend to be.
Thanks so much!
EDIT: I also have a very very rare hardback copy (but not what I'm looking for) so if anyone is looking for collecting really really old (but in great shape) Diane Duane hardback, I have one!
Does anyone know where I can find a hardback copy of Deep Wizardry? (Not library-bound but hardback... hardback has a jacket, library-bound is just a book in hard form)
I swear I've looked all over the place! I've tried Barnes and Noble, Amazon, and Rare Books!
It's the only one missing in my collection. If you have any suggestions I'd greatly appreciate it.
Oh, and it has to be under $40. I'm afraid I'm on a limited budget as most out-of-schoolers tend to be.
Thanks so much!
EDIT: I also have a very very rare hardback copy (but not what I'm looking for) so if anyone is looking for collecting really really old (but in great shape) Diane Duane hardback, I have one!
Hello! Intro post coming up!
Apr. 18th, 2011 04:32 pmana-banana27.livejournal.comI've been lurking here for a long time and finally decided to make a LiveJournal and talk to some fellow Young Wizards fans. I have a sort of interesting story with how I met the Young Wizards series, so here it is: I've been reading the Young Wizards series since 2009. I was recommended this series in sixth grade when I took a reading quiz. When I told my friends that later on, they described it as "fate" or "destiny" for me to read the Young Wizards series. I picked up the first book the summer after sixth grade and instantly loved the book. But for some strange reason (that I still can't figure out today) I abandoned the first book. (Don't hate me! I was only eleven.) So I went into seventh grade and found the book (and the rest of the series) in the library, so on 9/11/09 (I figured out later on), I picked up the first book for the second time and read it. But this time, I kept on reading. :-)
So that was my story of how I met the Young Wizards series. I hope I didn't bore all of you with my story.
Was I supposed to tag this entry? As you can tell, I'm new to LiveJournal and here.
Thanks for reading and I'm hoping I revived this community a little too.
So that was my story of how I met the Young Wizards series. I hope I didn't bore all of you with my story.
Was I supposed to tag this entry? As you can tell, I'm new to LiveJournal and here.
Thanks for reading and I'm hoping I revived this community a little too.
Looking for a quote
Jan. 28th, 2011 12:40 pmreadingredhead.livejournal.comI unfortunately only have the first three books with me at the moment, and I'm looking for a quote in which someone -- I think Tom or Carl? -- says of the Powers, "They change bodies and genders the way we change clothing." Or something like that. I initially thought it might have been at the end of High Wizardrdy when the One's Champion reveals that it's been hiding inside Peach all this time, but a cursory examination of that chapter has not yielded any results. If anyone remembers where the exact quote is, and wouldn't mind typing it out for me, I would be forever in your debt!
The reason I'm looking for the quote is that I've been thinking recently about the way in which transgender or genderqueer characters are treated (or might be treated) in science fiction and fantasy universes, and I feel like the Young Wizards universe is set up in a way that (perhaps uniquely in what I've read) emphasizes the essence of selfhood/personhood as distinct from gender labels. At first this spawned fic ideas, but now I'm contemplating a more bloggish response to the topic, and I'd love this quote as an example to non-YW readers to support any claims I might make about the YW-verse.
The reason I'm looking for the quote is that I've been thinking recently about the way in which transgender or genderqueer characters are treated (or might be treated) in science fiction and fantasy universes, and I feel like the Young Wizards universe is set up in a way that (perhaps uniquely in what I've read) emphasizes the essence of selfhood/personhood as distinct from gender labels. At first this spawned fic ideas, but now I'm contemplating a more bloggish response to the topic, and I'd love this quote as an example to non-YW readers to support any claims I might make about the YW-verse.
posicat.livejournal.comI was just curious how many out there had memorized The Oath. I took it myself when I read So You Want to be a Wizard, and decided it was a pretty good thing to keep in mind when living life from day to day. Well anyways a week or so ago I took the time to commit it to memory and was wondering if anyone else had as well.
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Jan. 18th, 2011 12:11 pmodette-river.livejournal.com[7] The Chronicles of Narnia (Lucy)
[8] Make It or Break It (Payson-centric)
[8] Wuthering Heights
[4] Legend of the Seeker
[4] Farscape
[20] Doctor Who (Doctor/Master), Andromeda (Trance), Stargate SG-1 (Vala-centric), NCIS (Ziva-centric), Tomorrow When the War Began, Jesus Christ Superstar (Mary), Imagine Me and You, The Sound of Music, Ballykissangel, House of Flying Daggers, Skins
[6] A Wizard of Mars
[4] The Circle of Magic, Animorphs
[13] Astrid Bergès-Frisbey
[12] Kelley Ash
[8] Camilla Belle
[5] Amelia Warner
[10] Katie McGrath, Natalie Portman, Kim Tae Hee, Alicia Witt, Dakota Blue Richards, Alexis Bledel, Dakota Fanning
[20] Stock
[25] Various banners
here @ odette_river
[8] Make It or Break It (Payson-centric)
[8] Wuthering Heights
[4] Legend of the Seeker
[4] Farscape
[20] Doctor Who (Doctor/Master), Andromeda (Trance), Stargate SG-1 (Vala-centric), NCIS (Ziva-centric), Tomorrow When the War Began, Jesus Christ Superstar (Mary), Imagine Me and You, The Sound of Music, Ballykissangel, House of Flying Daggers, Skins
[6] A Wizard of Mars
[4] The Circle of Magic, Animorphs
[13] Astrid Bergès-Frisbey
[12] Kelley Ash
[8] Camilla Belle
[5] Amelia Warner
[10] Katie McGrath, Natalie Portman, Kim Tae Hee, Alicia Witt, Dakota Blue Richards, Alexis Bledel, Dakota Fanning
[20] Stock
[25] Various banners
here @ odette_river
Silly question
Nov. 4th, 2010 10:52 pmlabellementeuse.livejournal.comSo this is a really silly question, but stopping to ask it lets me procrastinate on my ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
wrisomifu obligations, so obviously I just can't resist. Is there canonical information on how Nita takes her coffee? If not, how do you think she (and everyone else) likes it?
We know that Harry and Carl both like it strong, and Tom likes it a bit more refined. That's the only canonical stuff I can think of (and I think they all like it black? Maybe Tom takes milk?) I feel like Nita probably takes milk (wait, Ameripick question: should I be saying creamer instead of milk?). Dairine likes it black because she likes to be, you know, tuff. Anyone else?
wrisomifu obligations, so obviously I just can't resist. Is there canonical information on how Nita takes her coffee? If not, how do you think she (and everyone else) likes it?We know that Harry and Carl both like it strong, and Tom likes it a bit more refined. That's the only canonical stuff I can think of (and I think they all like it black? Maybe Tom takes milk?) I feel like Nita probably takes milk (wait, Ameripick question: should I be saying creamer instead of milk?). Dairine likes it black because she likes to be, you know, tuff. Anyone else?
Signes Copies of AWoM up for auction
Oct. 24th, 2010 11:11 amaraine.livejournal.comHey Young Wizard fans! Diane Duane has just put up five signed and personalized copies of A Wizard of Mars for the foresthouseeyes fan auction. This is an auction to help LJ user ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
foresthouse , who is undergoing experimental eye surgery, which her insurance doesn't cover, and she has been told that she must pay her $4000 bill by the end of the month. (Read about it: here, or at cleolinda 's journal).
As there are no signed copies of A Wizard of Mars floating around (due to the problems with that volcano), these will probably be some of the only signed copies of AWoM available, so if you really want a signed copy, this is definitely a chance to pounce on it! Plus it is for a good cause.
Here are the auctions:
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Five
foresthouseeyes fan auction. This is an auction to help LJ user foresthouse , who is undergoing experimental eye surgery, which her insurance doesn't cover, and she has been told that she must pay her $4000 bill by the end of the month. (Read about it: here, or at cleolinda 's journal).As there are no signed copies of A Wizard of Mars floating around (due to the problems with that volcano), these will probably be some of the only signed copies of AWoM available, so if you really want a signed copy, this is definitely a chance to pounce on it! Plus it is for a good cause.
Here are the auctions:
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Speech words
Oct. 23rd, 2010 12:21 ampoissonlune.livejournal.comHello all!
I am a giant nerd and made a list of all the Speech words that have been used in this series from Books 1-9 (I think I got all of them) which I will now share with you. Keep in mind that I only compiled a list of words in the Speech; I left out things like the Mason's Word whose true pronunciation is never mentioned.
Please correct a definition if I've got it wrong! Especially hwanthaet, I was at a complete loss how to define it.
( Speech dictionary. )
I am a giant nerd and made a list of all the Speech words that have been used in this series from Books 1-9 (I think I got all of them) which I will now share with you. Keep in mind that I only compiled a list of words in the Speech; I left out things like the Mason's Word whose true pronunciation is never mentioned.
Please correct a definition if I've got it wrong! Especially hwanthaet, I was at a complete loss how to define it.
( Speech dictionary. )
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kd7sovHello, all you lovelies. I just had a thought, and this seemed to be the place for it.
In SYWTBAW, when Nita is reading the Manual, there is special mention that "No one should take the Wizards' Oath who is not committed to making wizardry a lifelong pursuit. The energy invested in a beginning wizard is too precious to be thrown away. Yet there are no penalties for withdrawal from the Art, apart from the knowledge that the Universe will die a little faster because of energy lost…"
Somehow, something I hadn't fully realized before struck me: it's not getting the Manual that makes someone a wizard, it's taking the Oath. The candidate is given a choice, and if they do not take the Oath there is no loss. Now, obviously, most people would go for it, but what about those who don't?
I suspect that there are two possibilities. Either, like former wizards, they gradually forget what they know, or - more interestingly - they are in a unique position to know about and help wizards in more mundane ways. People like Millman, perhaps, although he could have a situation more like Carmela's.
Do any of you have thoughts on this matter?
In SYWTBAW, when Nita is reading the Manual, there is special mention that "No one should take the Wizards' Oath who is not committed to making wizardry a lifelong pursuit. The energy invested in a beginning wizard is too precious to be thrown away. Yet there are no penalties for withdrawal from the Art, apart from the knowledge that the Universe will die a little faster because of energy lost…"
Somehow, something I hadn't fully realized before struck me: it's not getting the Manual that makes someone a wizard, it's taking the Oath. The candidate is given a choice, and if they do not take the Oath there is no loss. Now, obviously, most people would go for it, but what about those who don't?
I suspect that there are two possibilities. Either, like former wizards, they gradually forget what they know, or - more interestingly - they are in a unique position to know about and help wizards in more mundane ways. People like Millman, perhaps, although he could have a situation more like Carmela's.
Do any of you have thoughts on this matter?
Anyone up for playing a game? :D
Aug. 5th, 2010 11:52 pmredfive-exe.livejournal.comSo I'm reading AWOM finally! And it's totally rekindling my Dairine!muse, who's been quiet the past year or so.
So um -- this is a call out for anyone who'd like to write with my bratty teen/preteen wizard. In either a canon or a totally AU setting. (Though I've sort of been itching to try writing her at about 18 or 19.)
Any takers?
EDIT: I guess, if I had a choice, I'd be specifically looking for a Darryl, a Nita, or a Roshaun...or a Lone Power for her to mess with. Though I certainly won't turn you down if you have someone else in mind, or even an OC. I'm more a fan of past-tense, third-person prose RP than dressing-rooms or sixwordstories. Plot-wise, my games with Dairine usually end up taking us on epic errantry to other galaxies, because Dair is just more fun when she's doing things.
So um -- this is a call out for anyone who'd like to write with my bratty teen/preteen wizard. In either a canon or a totally AU setting. (Though I've sort of been itching to try writing her at about 18 or 19.)
Any takers?
EDIT: I guess, if I had a choice, I'd be specifically looking for a Darryl, a Nita, or a Roshaun...or a Lone Power for her to mess with. Though I certainly won't turn you down if you have someone else in mind, or even an OC. I'm more a fan of past-tense, third-person prose RP than dressing-rooms or sixwordstories. Plot-wise, my games with Dairine usually end up taking us on epic errantry to other galaxies, because Dair is just more fun when she's doing things.
Contrast and Comparison
Jul. 19th, 2010 01:01 pmborg-princess.livejournal.comI've pretty much got Harry Potter on the brain 24/7, and then lately, I've been going through a few of the YW books in preparation for getting A Wizard of Mars this Friday for my birthday. *bounces* Both fandoms got jumbled in my head and I kept seeing similarities and the interesting differences in the ways the two authors handled different concepts and themes, and eventually, I had to put it all down in a word doc to exorcise it from my brain, lol, so I could function instead of endlessly pondering YW vs HP. Because fun as it is, so distracting!
I don't pretend to be objective in any way, this post is pretty much how I think Diane Duane rocks in so many ways that JKR fails to measure up to, and all the things I love about YW and how it's also dealt with in HP. My HP f-listers disagree with pretty much everything I wrote, lol, I'm curious to see if you guys would agree.
If you're interested in a discussion, take a look here at my journal.
I don't pretend to be objective in any way, this post is pretty much how I think Diane Duane rocks in so many ways that JKR fails to measure up to, and all the things I love about YW and how it's also dealt with in HP. My HP f-listers disagree with pretty much everything I wrote, lol, I'm curious to see if you guys would agree.
If you're interested in a discussion, take a look here at my journal.
