(no subject)

[labellementeuse.livejournal.com]

Can anyone remember in which book Tom or Carl says something along the lines of, "After all, most people think it's normal to have a nameless sorrow at the bottom of your heart"? I feel like it's Dilemma but I don't see it on a flickthrough.


So I was talking to several RL fannish friends last weekend and we were talking about Donna. One of the friends said that although she was heartbroken when Donna left the show, she didn't hate the way in which she left the show - in which she forgets everything about travelling with the Doctor, and can never remember on pain of death - to be not as heartbreaking for Donna as, say, the way Rose left the show (trapped in an alternate universe). Her point was that Donna had been happy in her life before; it was only knowing that the Doctor was out there that was so painful for her; and that also Donna's husband is probably very nice and that it's a terrible thing to say that nobody can ever be happy, productive, or important in a normal Doctor-less life.

And I said, look, all of those things are very true, but the only way I can think about it is by remembering this stuff in these books I read. I can only think about Donna with a nameless sorrow at the bottom of her heart that she thinks is just normal. (Interestingly, this is quite a lot like what happens to Amy after Rory gets erased from history in season 5.)

And then I decided I wanted to make a graphic (likely terrible, but hey) based around this idea.

Comments

[labellementeuse.livejournal.com]

Oh, I don't think Carl meant that to be comforting - I think he meant it at least a bit as a warning; it's always struck me as one of the most brilliant statements in the novel of the unknown but pervasive effects of the Lone Power and of the failed human Choice, that this type of sorrow isn't normal and shouldn't be there.

But yeah, it really stuck with me as well, and then when that happened to Donna ... I just can't think about it any other way.

[readingredhead.livejournal.com]

I guess "comfort" is probably not the right word there -- I mean, just the simple fact that that was on his "more-or-less good things that could happen even if you broke your promise" list was like a punch in the gut, and it WAS a significant realization moment, for me, of the small-but-pervasive presence of the failed Choice. Still punches me in the gut every time I think about it.