[identity profile] ryouji.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] youngwizards_dw
Has anyone been irked by sywtbaw/YWseries reviews that say "Don't read These books/this book. The author ripped everything off of Harry Potter."


*scowl*

Does anyone check the publishing dates, and realise how long sywtbaw came out before the HP books?
Ignorance, in this case, is not bliss. It is retardedness.

Date: 2006-10-12 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lord-maahes.livejournal.com
I don't understand people like that. It shows that they either have not read the books or that they haven't done much more than skim. -.-

Ah well... people will be what they are...which in that case means being somewhat mindless and easilly led.

Date: 2006-10-12 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nikolche.livejournal.com
...but, wizardry aside, they're not even really all that similar. YW has explanations and all sorts of background info about wizardry and why it works, HP just has [flicks wand] "ooo, pretty magic". Not to mention the fact that, hello, anyone who's read the first chapter of SYWTBAW can see that YW is set in a more 'realistic' universe. Harry and co. live in the wizarding world, it's almost entirely set apart from the non-wizarding world. Nita and Kit don't even have a wizarding world really, they have people who are wizards and people who aren't. Even wizards have to hold down regular jobs and do regular things. There are so many elemental differences, no one who has actually read both sets of books could think they were copied from each other.

Date: 2006-10-12 03:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] conuly
Forget the publishing dates, what I wanna know is...

What the heck have they been reading????

Because I'm not seeing any similarities between the two series, other than that they both involve magic. Well, whoop-de-doo, so does Cinderella (which, by the way, is totally ripped off of HP - I mean, it has a put-upon child in it!!!!!!)

Lmffao.

Date: 2006-10-12 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yukinoomoni.livejournal.com
OMG I know!! And the evil relatives, just like Harry Potter...!

Re: Lmffao.

Date: 2006-10-13 03:41 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] conuly
Exactly. We must now proceed en masse to sue!

Date: 2006-10-12 03:34 am (UTC)
fiveforsilver: (YW [Did I do right?])
From: [personal profile] fiveforsilver
Not to mention that YW is so much better than the HP books (writing, plot, style, dialogue, characterization, everything) that I don't have words.

Do they really think that HP is the first series ever written about young magic-workers? Even the first "young wizard sent off to school, and not fitting in" books?

How about the Chrestomanci books? Tamora Pierce's books? A dozen other authors and books I can't think of right now?

Date: 2006-10-12 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harper-knight.livejournal.com
Chrestomanci is AWESOME. I love the series and the character so much.

Date: 2006-10-12 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windfeathercat.livejournal.com
Fwar, I love those books. Love Diana Wynne Jones in general actually. Oo, the Dark Lord of Derkholm/ Year fo the Griffin features a school where magic is learned, HP rip off!

Date: 2006-10-12 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] senri.livejournal.com
Where did you read these?

Also: laugh. People are just retarded sometimes like that, and what can you do? Back in my freshman year of high school I met a girl who thought the Lord of the Rings were movies first. *shrugs* There's really just no helping things like this, I think.

Date: 2006-10-12 04:12 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
I have been, about... once, because fortunately I've never seen such blatant stupidity very often. *tears out hair* As everyone's said, it's not even that they're too dumb to check the publication dates... it's that there's really, really, really nothing similar apart from the fact that they both involve wizardry - although a DRAMATICALLY different sort and, for example, Nita's not a witch - and teenagers. Oh, and a battle of good vs evil, in which case I suppose the Bible also ripped off Harry Potter. *eyeroll* Whoever writes that kind of thing hasn't read any fantasy at all, ever, clearly.

Date: 2006-10-12 07:09 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] izzybeth.livejournal.com
battle of good vs evil, in which case I suppose the Bible also ripped off Harry Potter

BWAHAHAHA. brilliant. thank you for that.

Date: 2006-10-12 08:36 am (UTC)
ext_2569: text: "a straight account is difficult, so let me define seven wishes" image: man on steps. (my fandom...)
From: [identity profile] labellementeuse.livejournal.com
The sad thing is I would be only slightly surprised by fans bitching about how the apostles, like, totally ripped off JKR!11!!eleventy!!

Date: 2006-10-12 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] otterystgrint.livejournal.com
I can't say I've ever had that happen actually.

And well if it did ... I'd have to laugh for the reason you said ... LOL some moron doesn't check the publishing date ... *shrugs* I have a four moron a week limit ... anymore than that I usually ignore ... maybe that's why it's never happened to me.

Date: 2006-10-12 05:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] replica.livejournal.com
I've never seen that, although I've seen YW show up on recs to read as "if you like HP, then you'll like this! they're really similar!" which makes me headdesk, because I've never even read/seen HP and I can still tell they're not really that alike, other than the element of wizardry.

Date: 2006-10-12 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moggymania.livejournal.com
I admit that I've said that, mostly just in hope of getting the HP fan to read something better, whether it's Diane Duane or Diana Wynne Jones. It often seems like the only way to get most people to even consider anything that isn't Hollywoodized. :-( Sadly, even then I've had adults whine "it's too complex" in response to books that are roughly at the YW difficulty level.

Date: 2006-10-12 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caiteydid.livejournal.com
Whereas I had a friend who (really ticked me off by) saying she hated them because they were so much like Harry Potter. Among other things. You can imagine the hard feelings.

Seriously, though, of the few people I actully know who've read them, they've seemed to in general be the same ones who like the Harry Potter books. So generally that's why /I/ tell people that. And a ," They're... vaguely similar. They both have teenagers... and magic... and are set in present time."

But yes, I want to hit people who DO say that Sywtbaw was ripped off of Harry Potter. You want Harry Potter rip offs, go read these really (in my opinion) awful books in the Camp Ravenwyng series. Wow.

Date: 2006-10-12 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yukinoomoni.livejournal.com
It actually seemes more like it's vice-versa, seeing as how the series started in the late seventies - early eighties.

I remember first reading it and thinking "This is quite a nice change from Harry Potter. I think I like this better." I don't see, in anywhere, where it could possibly be enough like Harry Potter to consider it plagerised.

People are so stupid.

Date: 2006-10-12 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] famebound.livejournal.com
I always think of YW more as science fiction fantasy and HP as fantasy fiction. I think that distinction of genre changes things immensely.

I didn't even know the YW books were popular enough to get reviews :P

Date: 2006-10-12 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oop-ack-chee.livejournal.com
That reminds me of the time I was reading a review of the Return of the King (the movie) and they called Shelob a rip-off of Aragog from HP. And I was like, "YOU MORON, WHICH DO YOU THINK HAS BEEN AROUND LONGER? DUR."

... but then, I can be rather mean sometimes. Ehe.

Date: 2006-10-13 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oop-ack-chee.livejournal.com
Yeah! I was reading Harry Potter in class WAY before my friends... heh. I can't say the same for YW... I had the first few books a long time before my lovely friend Senri finally inspired me to actually read them. (Before that they'd just sat on my shelf.) I wish that people wouldn't get so obsessive about HP... it's a great series, yes, but people seem to get so... emotional about. Sorta like allcaps!Harry. XD

Oh, well, I guess you'll always get that sort of reaction no matter what fandom... *le sigh*

Date: 2006-10-13 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] majaji.livejournal.com
reading everyone's reaction was amusuing. I do agree that people need to get their facts straigt before saying things like that. but for me that's what made me aware of the YW series in the first place. I never knew they existed, and i do believe they are far better than HP. I'm still struggling between YW and His dark materials. not sure which I like more yet. but all that aside, we just need to educate the litte HP fans who have yet to step out of their HP shell and read something more.

Date: 2006-10-14 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starcat-jewel.livejournal.com
They do it with music too. The number of times I've heard people (usually younger than me, but not always) raving about this or that cover version of some song, and asked them if they've never heard the original...

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